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		<title>By: Loren</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1971</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never read your blog before I linked over from a post on the &#039;Get Rich Slowly&#039; blog. But a few years ago I had a bank (National City, a local company that got bought out) do the EXACT same thing to me.&lt;br&gt;It was a checking account my roommate and I used PURELY to pay utility bills. So there was never much more than 100$ in it to begin with.&lt;br&gt;But I MAILED a water bill on Saturday morning (as in dropped it off at the post office so that it would arrive in 3-5 buisness days.)&lt;br&gt;I went to work, then stopped at the ATM outside my bank on my way home, I DEPOSITED the money into the checking account (on a Saturday night less than 12 hours later).&lt;br&gt;3 weeks later, I get a notification in the mail that my bank account has been over drafted for 3 weeks. And that if I don&#039;t fix it immediately they will take MORE money out.&lt;br&gt;Why was it over drafted? Because the BILL that I mailed got processed Monday MORNING, but the money that I deposited, didn&#039;t get processed until Monday at FIVE O&#039;CLOCK. The bank HAD the money for the deposit since Saturday at about 10 pm, but still processed it LAST, even though the BILL couldn&#039;t possibly have been received until 8 am Monday morning because the water company isn&#039;t OPEN on the weekend. Then they didn&#039;t notify me of the problem for 3 WEEKS, right before they were going to begin CHARGING me for having an over drafted account!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I do all my banking with a non-profit credit union. And if I deposit a check in an ATM, it gets processed by the time I get home and check my balance online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve never read your blog before I linked over from a post on the &#39;Get Rich Slowly&#39; blog. But a few years ago I had a bank (National City, a local company that got bought out) do the EXACT same thing to me.<br />It was a checking account my roommate and I used PURELY to pay utility bills. So there was never much more than 100$ in it to begin with.<br />But I MAILED a water bill on Saturday morning (as in dropped it off at the post office so that it would arrive in 3-5 buisness days.)<br />I went to work, then stopped at the ATM outside my bank on my way home, I DEPOSITED the money into the checking account (on a Saturday night less than 12 hours later).<br />3 weeks later, I get a notification in the mail that my bank account has been over drafted for 3 weeks. And that if I don&#39;t fix it immediately they will take MORE money out.<br />Why was it over drafted? Because the BILL that I mailed got processed Monday MORNING, but the money that I deposited, didn&#39;t get processed until Monday at FIVE O&#39;CLOCK. The bank HAD the money for the deposit since Saturday at about 10 pm, but still processed it LAST, even though the BILL couldn&#39;t possibly have been received until 8 am Monday morning because the water company isn&#39;t OPEN on the weekend. Then they didn&#39;t notify me of the problem for 3 WEEKS, right before they were going to begin CHARGING me for having an over drafted account!</p>
<p>Now I do all my banking with a non-profit credit union. And if I deposit a check in an ATM, it gets processed by the time I get home and check my balance online.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never read your blog before I linked over from a post on the &#039;Get Rich Slowly&#039; blog. But a few years ago I had a bank (National City, a local company that got bought out) do the EXACT same thing to me.&lt;br&gt;It was a checking account my roommate and I used PURELY to pay utility bills. So there was never much more than 100$ in it to begin with.&lt;br&gt;But I MAILED a water bill on Saturday morning (as in dropped it off at the post office so that it would arrive in 3-5 buisness days.)&lt;br&gt;I went to work, then stopped at the ATM outside my bank on my way home, I DEPOSITED the money into the checking account (on a Saturday night less than 12 hours later).&lt;br&gt;3 weeks later, I get a notification in the mail that my bank account has been over drafted for 3 weeks. And that if I don&#039;t fix it immediately they will take MORE money out.&lt;br&gt;Why was it over drafted? Because the BILL that I mailed got processed Monday MORNING, but the money that I deposited, didn&#039;t get processed until Monday at FIVE O&#039;CLOCK. The bank HAD the money for the deposit since Saturday at about 10 pm, but still processed it LAST, even though the BILL couldn&#039;t possibly have been received until 8 am Monday morning because the water company isn&#039;t OPEN on the weekend. Then they didn&#039;t notify me of the problem for 3 WEEKS, right before they were going to begin CHARGING me for having an over drafted account!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I do all my banking with a non-profit credit union. And if I deposit a check in an ATM, it gets processed by the time I get home and check my balance online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve never read your blog before I linked over from a post on the &#39;Get Rich Slowly&#39; blog. But a few years ago I had a bank (National City, a local company that got bought out) do the EXACT same thing to me.<br />It was a checking account my roommate and I used PURELY to pay utility bills. So there was never much more than 100$ in it to begin with.<br />But I MAILED a water bill on Saturday morning (as in dropped it off at the post office so that it would arrive in 3-5 buisness days.)<br />I went to work, then stopped at the ATM outside my bank on my way home, I DEPOSITED the money into the checking account (on a Saturday night less than 12 hours later).<br />3 weeks later, I get a notification in the mail that my bank account has been over drafted for 3 weeks. And that if I don&#39;t fix it immediately they will take MORE money out.<br />Why was it over drafted? Because the BILL that I mailed got processed Monday MORNING, but the money that I deposited, didn&#39;t get processed until Monday at FIVE O&#39;CLOCK. The bank HAD the money for the deposit since Saturday at about 10 pm, but still processed it LAST, even though the BILL couldn&#39;t possibly have been received until 8 am Monday morning because the water company isn&#39;t OPEN on the weekend. Then they didn&#39;t notify me of the problem for 3 WEEKS, right before they were going to begin CHARGING me for having an over drafted account!</p>
<p>Now I do all my banking with a non-profit credit union. And if I deposit a check in an ATM, it gets processed by the time I get home and check my balance online.</p>
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		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1658</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few months ago, my local bank and I had a falling out and my husband and I were suddenly very motivated to switch banks. We’d narrowed it down to two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sierra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip!</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former employee of Citizens Bank, I can tell you that they process transactions the same way - largest debits first, and debits before credits. I now work for a mutual bank, as in we don&#039;t report quarterly earnings to shareholders. If you&#039;re looking for a community bank, you need to find a mutual or cooperative bank. Only then will you find fair banking practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former employee of Citizens Bank, I can tell you that they process transactions the same way &#8211; largest debits first, and debits before credits. I now work for a mutual bank, as in we don&#39;t report quarterly earnings to shareholders. If you&#39;re looking for a community bank, you need to find a mutual or cooperative bank. Only then will you find fair banking practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn H</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are really looking for an awesome bank w/ that convenience factor I would try USAA.  I&#039;m so in love with them my husband is worried about his place in my heart!  They don&#039;t have branches but you can deposit your checks from YOUR HOUSE using a scanner.  It totally rocks.  Check it out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redirectjsp=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redir...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are really looking for an awesome bank w/ that convenience factor I would try USAA.  I&#39;m so in love with them my husband is worried about his place in my heart!  They don&#39;t have branches but you can deposit your checks from YOUR HOUSE using a scanner.  It totally rocks.  Check it out.<br /><a href="https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redirectjsp=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redir&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jenn H</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are really looking for an awesome bank w/ that convenience factor I would try USAA.  I&#039;m so in love with them my husband is worried about his place in my heart!  They don&#039;t have branches but you can deposit your checks from YOUR HOUSE using a scanner.  It totally rocks.  Check it out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redirectjsp=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redir...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are really looking for an awesome bank w/ that convenience factor I would try USAA.  I&#39;m so in love with them my husband is worried about his place in my heart!  They don&#39;t have branches but you can deposit your checks from YOUR HOUSE using a scanner.  It totally rocks.  Check it out.<br /><a href="https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redirectjsp=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.usaa.com/inet/ent_logon/Logon?redir&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: What I&#8217;m Doing With My Banking These Days — ChildWild</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>What I&#8217;m Doing With My Banking These Days — ChildWild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Y&#8217;all may recall that a few months ago I fired my local bank after they stole my grocery money. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher White</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have news for you. Citizens Bank has the worst overdraft policies in the country, according to their own literature.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://admin.consumerfed.org/elements/www.consumerfed.org/File/CFA%252520Survey%252520of%252520Big%252520Bank%252520Overdraft%252520Fees%2525202_4_10.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://admin....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have news for you. Citizens Bank has the worst overdraft policies in the country, according to their own literature.<br /><a href="http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://admin.consumerfed.org/elements/www.consumerfed.org/File/CFA%252520Survey%252520of%252520Big%252520Bank%252520Overdraft%252520Fees%2525202_4_10.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://admin&#8230;.</a></p>
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		<title>By: pekmez</title>
		<link>http://childwild.com/2009/12/02/wainwright-bank-stole-my-lunch-money/comment-page-1/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>pekmez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no direct experience with them, but I am curious what makes you think that Citizens isn&#039;t doing exactly the same accounting tricks?   They won&#039;t hose *you* because they offer the overdraft protection in a free package deal - but that doesn&#039;t make it right to reorder the transactions so that they hose other people,  and I&#039;m sure that for customers without overdraft protection their fees and rules are just as oppressive.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I can somewhat understand them reordering to say  &quot;no, you can&#039;t float money into the account the second the bank opens on Monday to cover the withdrawals that are waiting in the queue to process on Monday&quot; but the weekend ATM withdrawal fees seem ridiculous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(For your requirements I would probably have tried to go with Cambridge Savings Bank, which has a branch right in the Porter Square Shaw&#039;s shopping center.   Again, I don&#039;t have personal experience with their policies, and actually I only bank with them by owing them money, not by storing it with them. (They own our mortgage.)  And soon I will sacrifice that too because while I like to  put my money where my values are, $5000+ now (what it would cost to refinance my mortgage with them rather than the broker who originally handled our loan) and/or a worse mortgage rate is a bit over the line. ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I like their customer service.  If I hadn&#039;t been banking with Cambridge Trust Company for a million years, I would probably be using CSB for more banking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no direct experience with them, but I am curious what makes you think that Citizens isn&#39;t doing exactly the same accounting tricks?   They won&#39;t hose *you* because they offer the overdraft protection in a free package deal &#8211; but that doesn&#39;t make it right to reorder the transactions so that they hose other people,  and I&#39;m sure that for customers without overdraft protection their fees and rules are just as oppressive.  </p>
<p> I can somewhat understand them reordering to say  &#8220;no, you can&#39;t float money into the account the second the bank opens on Monday to cover the withdrawals that are waiting in the queue to process on Monday&#8221; but the weekend ATM withdrawal fees seem ridiculous.</p>
<p>(For your requirements I would probably have tried to go with Cambridge Savings Bank, which has a branch right in the Porter Square Shaw&#39;s shopping center.   Again, I don&#39;t have personal experience with their policies, and actually I only bank with them by owing them money, not by storing it with them. (They own our mortgage.)  And soon I will sacrifice that too because while I like to  put my money where my values are, $5000+ now (what it would cost to refinance my mortgage with them rather than the broker who originally handled our loan) and/or a worse mortgage rate is a bit over the line. <img src='http://childwild.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I like their customer service.  If I hadn&#39;t been banking with Cambridge Trust Company for a million years, I would probably be using CSB for more banking.</p>
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