Conversation at Goodwill

by Sierra on September 2, 2009 · Comments

in Uncategorized, parenting

This happened right before we left for camp. The events are a few weeks old, but the sentiment remains – me

On the way home from an afternoon playdate,  my five-year-old said she wanted to stop at Goodwill to buy a birthday gift for a friend. As we walked in, a woman approached me with a look of horror on her face. She was staring at my baby stroller, and I thought she was going to tell me I couldn’t bring the stroller in the store.

“She’s not wearing any underwear,” she said loudly, pointing at my 2-yr-old.

“I know,” I replied calmly, though her tone and body language were combative enough to set all my fight-or-flight instincts going. “She peed in them, so I took them off. They’re in my purse.”

“You can see her vagina!” the woman exclaimed, becoming agitated. The toddler in question was wearing a long dress, but the skirt had gotten pushed up to her knees. If you happened to glance at her from the wrong angle, as this woman had, you’d get an eyeful of toddler booty.

I just looked at her. I was tired. It’d been a long day. Why was this woman yelling about my toddler’s vagina?

She reached down, shoved the baby’s skirt into her crotch, then tried to force my daughter’s knees together with her hand.

“We just love it when strangers touch her without asking,” I said.

Now she looked really angry with me. “There are pedophiles who walk through this store!” she told me sternly.

I literally bit my tongue to stop myself from saying, “The only person trying to touch my child in an inappropriate way is you.”

She stormed off. I stood my ground and let my older kid pick out a beaded necklace for her friend while the little one threw a frightened tantrum, waving her hoo-ha all over the store.

All the way home I felt scared. Would someone else approach me about the missing panties? Call the police? Be mean to me in front of my kids?

I was distracted and bad-tempered with the kids during our walk home. I yelled at my older daughter for a silly infraction of rules and compulsively tugged the little one’s skirt down every time she moved in her stroller.

This is one small, concrete example of the cost our culture of fear has for our children. There may or may not have been a pedophile in the Goodwill this afternoon. If there was, my kids were in no danger from that person, as they were constantly within arm’s reach of me in a crowded store.

My kids and I were victimized, though. We were the victims of a woman’s groundless fear of the mythical boogeyman so much as laying eyes on a little girl. In the process, she made us all a little more afraid. She made my baby afraid by touching her inappropriately. She made my five-year-old afraid by confronting her mother aggressively in public. She made me afraid by calling me out for exposing my children to “sexual predators” – the worst thing a mother can do in the popular imagination.

The girls responded by acting out, testing my authority to see who was really in charge of the scene. And I reacted by clamping down in a frightened, authoritarian style. Everyone lost that battle.

Battle? What war do I imagine we’re fighting? It’s not merely a question of kids being free to be kids. At its core, this is about all of us being free to fear less. It’s about the freedom to shrug off a world of “orange alerts” and constant surveillance, to live our lives. Lives that are a little messy and imperfect, but overall safe and fun. Without this freedom, we’re not just more afraid, we’re smaller and meaner. When we accept abusive authority from others, we become a little abusive ourselves, as I did on the walk home when I yelled at my girls.

It’s not like this was a high point in my parenting life. I certainly did not want to be waving my kid around Goodwill half-naked. I was at the end of my day, and my cope.The perfect mom I am in my imagination would have had a diaper bag with an endless supply of clean panties for her toddler. But that wasn’t me. I was tired and out of important things like toddler-size underwear and patience. What I really needed then was an ally, not a frightened, judgemental stranger.

Imagine if instead of physically accosting my girl to cover her up, the woman had winked at me and laughed, or shared a story of the time her own toddler did something similar. Imagine if instead of panicking at the thought of pedophiles lurking behind every rack of used sweaters, she’d felt relaxed, happy and safe in her neighborhood? In my imagination, everyone feeling less fear makes everyone more powerful and joyful, and encourages us to share that power with each other.

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  • Scary. I never imagined facing that woman myself. I might end up telling her, "mind your own business instead of scaring us, I know what to do and you are more scary than the boogeyman you are referring to". Wheew, what a day!
  • Colleen
    When my youngest was three, we took our kids to a baseball game. As usual, she had gotten herself dressed in a cute sundress. Imagine my husband's surprise when he scooped her up into his arms to facilitate our way through the crowd, and her bare bottom was sticking out. When we questioned her, she said "Mom, you told me I could wear this. You didn't say anything about underpants!" We thought it was hilarious and still do--she loves to hear us tell that story.
    Our society has become paranoid.
    People need to lighten up and mind their own business, and realize that, yeah, sometimes little kids are going to be naked!
  • My mother once told me the story of when I was first learning to be toilet-trained and proudly carried my portable potty to the front door to show the postman what I had just learned. I'm sure they were both amused.

    Ah, simpler times. Today, we've read enough about pedophiles to be scared and feel enough entitlement over other people's children to make them scared.

    When your remark about touching other people's children wasn't enough to get this woman's attention, you could only have moved away from her. But, the damage was done. You were accused. Your children heard and reacted.

    She thought she was protecting your children. You thought she was brutishly intrusive. When fear goes up, people do outrageous things. My sympathies.
  • Love and Laughter,Amy
    So as a parent of small people, I look at being approached by these people as an instructional event on how to stand up for my kids. Years ago when I was nanny of a child that had previously been abused I was at the mall and we were approached by an adult whom the child recognized and was upset by. The adult tried to explain to me that they were friends of the parents and that they just wanted to say Hi. My initial reaction was to be polite but one glance of the fear on that childs face motivated me to stand firmly my ground and insist (loudly) that they leave the premises immediately or I would be calling security.
    I have decided that my childrens' feeling of safety and security is more important than me being labeled some crazy lady. Since I made that decision everything has been a lot easier. I hope that y'all will take a moment and decide NOW what course you will take in the future and then when/if this comes up again you will feel secure and prepared instead of shocked and caught off guard.
    Much Love to you
  • Katie
    I've had that happen to me too! Few weeks ago a woman threw a little fit about my daughter rolling around in her seat, and she HAD underwear on. I actually told her to leave us alone, pointedly. Then I talked to DD loudly about "how some people think they can tell others what to do and that it's very rude. However, it's also rude to flash your panties on the subway, so please stop."

    And a few days ago, a woman ran up to my daughter and tried to grab her when we were waiting for the subway. Apparently the woman decided that DD was too close to the edge of the subway. Now, to be fair to her, I don't think she saw me at all, so she just saw a little girl closer to the edge than she liked (about 2 feet farther away than the yellow line, which is our personal rule, no body part over the yellow line at all). I freaked out a little, and said very, very loudly "DO NOT TOUCH MY CHILD!" DD was freaked, and could easily have fallen onto the tracks trying to get away from the woman!

    I just can't understand the idea that telling a complete stranger what you think of their parenting, or that touching another person's child, is considered acceptable. However, I also recently discovered that there are people in my religion who consider it their religious duty specifically to tell others that they are "wrong" about personal beliefs.
    So nothing is a haven.
  • Elizabeth B
    Ugh, that's horrible. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Some people, I swear. We have the most damaging and ridiculous ideas about sexuality in this society.

    Here from the Non-Consumer Advocate, and wishing you a lovely day with your children. :)
  • msmsgirl
    I saw something similarly messed up happen at the post office a while back -- a slightly older (maybe 4/5) little girl and her brother were sitting against a wall waiting for their mom who was on line, and an older lady who was next to the mother on the line kept making a big show of confronting the mom, pointing at the little girl and gesturing and ranting in a slightly-too-loud voice, about pedophiles and such, every time the little girl's panties were visible as she was sitting there cross-legged, playing with her brother. The mother at first called the little girl over and tried to advise her privately to try to keep her dress down -- but the woman KEPT HARPING at the mother basically every single time the little girl moved her legs, and I could see that the mother quickly decided not to hassle and embarrass her daughter again and instead try to brush the woman off.

    It was so obvious that this woman was upset by the possibility of 'pedophiles' being excited by a glimpse of this little girl's panties in a way that was not explicable by adult reasoning -- that she was mentally unbalanced, under the influence of something, a victim herself who was having something traumatic triggered by this, or fighting with her own inner demons of some kind, so intense was her need to warn the mom every time the little girl's panties were visible. It was intensely uncomfortable; thanks to her going on, everyone in the post office line was eventually looking/trying not to look at this little girl's panties -- I think mostly in embarrassment for this older woman and sympathy with the mother's attempt to politely put her off, but still!

    On the border between Harlem and the Upper West Side in NYC, too, this interaction was acutely laden with class and race (the older woman was poor and black and the mother was a bourgie, baby-boomer white woman with two multiracial kids), foregrounding painful and problematic differences around notions of bodily freedom, safety, and danger, as well as norms of parental sovereignty and privacy, age and authority... It was also one of those situations where there was no 'win.' I can't imagine a 'good' time to have to try to learn that sometimes, some older people will be very upset if your dress rides up, for very sad reasons of their own that have nothing to do with you.
  • Rich,

    I think you're right, but it's a two-way thing. This woman was in her 50s, I'd guess? With a local accent. So she grew up in a culture where it was perfectly normal for kids under three to be running around stark naked. I think she's so uncomfortable with nudity now because she's internalized the Fox News-style fear that a pedophile lurks behind every shrubbery and clothing rack, just waiting to...I dunno...*peek* at a little girl in a stroller with her mom?

    Like I said, I am in no way proud of the "flashing Goodwill" aspect of this. Of course I'd have preferred she was appropriately clothed in that scene. I just don't think she was in any danger, except from "helpful" people like the woman who accosted us.
  • Rich Wilson
    At least she didn't slap your daughter... (http://indianapolis.momslikeme.com/members/Jour...)

    Seriously, we were at a furniture store last weekend, and my 2.5 year old was jumping on a big fancy bed frame (jumping on the slats that would support the mattress). I was just about to try and re-direct his energies, because the staff was getting that "we're going to get sued" look. But instead staff-lady said "He might break it". These were 1"x6" hardwood boards. As I scooped up my son I said, "Wow, sounds like crap if it can't support a 30lb kid". I don't mind them asking me to not let my kid jump on the furniture. He wasn't hurting anything, but it's their store. Just don't make up crap.

    I kinda suspect the pedophile thing was her excuse for her own discomfort at seeing booty.
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